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Joss Whedon Already Discussing 'Avengers' Sequel
Two of the most anticipated movies of the summer, of the year in fact, are 'The Dark Knight Rises' and 'The Avengers.' It's hard to say which major comic book company property, DC's Batman or Marvel's Avengers, will triumph in that epic box office duel. But 'Avengers' director Joss Whedon, streets ahead as he tends to be, is already looking past this battle to the next Avengers installment. The geek icon was asked in a recent interview how he would go about topping this year's superhero epic. Here's what he had to say...
"By not trying to. By being smaller. More personal, more painful. By being the next thing that should happen to these characters, and not just a rehash of what seemed to work the first time. By having a theme that is completely fresh and organic to itself."
He then compared his sequel approach to that of 'The Godfather, Part II...'
"By having flashbacks to young Michael Andolini escaping Sicily to come to New York, where he will be called Corleone. Sequels are always better when that happens."
First of all, I think we can all agree that we'd love to see Whedon come back to direct 'The Avengers 2.' That may be putting the cart before The Hulk, but if this summer's blockbuster is even half as amazing as it looks in trailers and other sundry marketing materials, geeks like myself will be demanding his return. I also really like his decision to actually narrow the scope of the sequel and make it less about the giant spectacle of the assembling of so many superheroes. Part of me wonders if "more personal, more painful" is a hint that we'll see Ant-Man in the sequel, the Avengers member from the comics with plenty of personal demons including his turbulent relationship with The Wasp and the ill-advised creation of his disastrous robot Ultron. It would make sense to include both of these Avengers members from the comics if Whedon is going for a smaller (no pun intended), more personally painful story for the sequel. Of course, that is major conjecture and may be complicated by the fact that Edgar Wright is supposedly doing his own Ant-Man film.
As to his second statement, in which he compares his approach to 'The Avengers' sequel to 'The Godfather, Part II,' I hate to disagree with the man, but the last place I think 'The Avengers 2' should go is into origin story territory. Why? Because Marvel already very deliberately used multiple stand-alone films as one massive origin story. Nearly every superhero movie Marvel has put out since 'Iron Man' has ended with a stinger promoting and hinting at 'The Avengers.' Marvel has created possibly the biggest origin story of any superhero property and to go back again and revisit their roots strikes me as a repetitive and unnecessary approach. However, if I can see the issue inherent in approaching the sequel this way, Whedon already has and is probably working around it. It just strikes me as an odd thing to say.
What do you guys think? What should a smaller, more personally painful 'Avengers' sequel center on? Could an origin story work?
Source: SFX (via Digital Spy)
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Comment by David Bowie on March 13, 2012 at 5:16pm -
I'm almost positive that second quote was a joke. Seriously guys, it's sad you don't get it.
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Comment by SidMeister on March 12, 2012 at 5:27pm -
@EbonyNo problem.It's all in good debate. I really do hope Joss Wedon will have me pleasantly surprised.Unlike M.knight shaymalan (who I still think should fall off a cliff for what he did with The Last Air Bender).So I'll just wait'n'see.
On your other comment; I do prefer Cpt Americas military like costume from His movie to this 1. the avengers costume looks too flashy to me (makes him looks skinny too).
As for Edward Norton I like him better than Ruffalo by a longshot unless he turns out to be awesome in the avengers movie. Appearently no one wanted to work with Edward Norton anymore because he was impossible to work with on the Incredible Hulk movie #thatstoobad.
I'll go with wat TradeMark89 said too.Hulk is my fav character so I'll keep hope he'll be awesome.
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Comment by TradeMark89 on March 12, 2012 at 2:04pm -
I'm starting to like Ruffalo as The Hulk. But, until The Avengers comes out Edward Norton IS Bruce Banner.
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Comment by Ebony on March 12, 2012 at 1:02pm -
Does any1 prefer Cpt Americas military like costume from His movie to this 1? I will admit, i am also missing edward Norton, he was pretty awesome. Everything I've seen the new guy in has been Romantic Comedies... 13 going on 30, Just Like Heaven, the Kids are alright, etc. Guess its better than Channing Tatum!
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Comment by Ebony on March 12, 2012 at 12:12pm
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john razzell Not an argument, more like a debate. I spend All day arguing with Rich spoiled pricks, its nice to mute their asses and run away to Spill.com. I agree with almost everything the guy said and unlike most chicks I know...i can admit I stand corrected;-) lol
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Comment by Ebony on March 12, 2012 at 12:08pm
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SidMeister I stand corrected. Thanx for clearing up that misunderstanding, This website and the Crew have made me laugh through sum Really hard times, thought u were dissin em, my bad. I do think Joss Wedon may have u pleasantly surprised. He hasn't let me down yet, so Fingers crossed!
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Comment by Keewoong Sung on March 12, 2012 at 10:26am -
After looking at the comments I thought I was on Youtube.
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Comment by john razzell on March 12, 2012 at 8:59am -
you think spill needs to get some kind of character limit to avoid stupid space filling arguments like those below me?
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Comment by SidMeister on March 12, 2012 at 2:54am
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@Ebony First thing's first; I am also a fan of spill and have been for 5 years now. I pointed out the spelling of the Founders name as to show that someone knowing Spill very well wouldn't make such a simple mistake.But its really not a big deal anyway don't get me wrong, typo is not a real issue.
Second thing is I said "Fuck you're thoughts, honestly." and I did so in a separate sentence of its own. And I did not say "Spill Crew Fuck your thoughts".dont mix my words. Now I understand how this can be misinterpreted through text as being "rude" so I'll explain: In Spill they a show called LDT "Let's Do This" and in that show they have a segment called "Fuck you're thoughts" where they give their personal opinion on topics they receive from the fans.And that was an anecdote to that phrase they use and I had to give my opinion on this Avengers article that's all. Call it dry humor if you want but it wasn't an insult.
I'm actually glad to know you were referring to The Avengers as the movie you and other Geeks will see over and over. I thought you meant Ghost Rider and Resident Evil movies were great for a sec..
And the third thing is: the interview with Joss Whedon is a little too vague.They don't say if he's signed for a sequel or not or why they ask him that specific question to him. like you said: "We dont know everything, Alot of movies have sequels and whole trilogies planned or in the works b4 it's released." but we don't know that for sure. So I don't actually know if he's just speculating saying "What if i was to do a sequel" or if he's for real doing a sequel. So I still think talking about a sequel from him is premature on his part.Especially not knowing how the first film is widely received to the audiance yet.
I agree with you He's a great Director but he's mostly a screenwriter.And he only Directed about 5 of the 14 or so movies he was part of(he also wrote comics which is a good bonus) .Again That doesn't mean he's not a good director, it just means that he needs to prove that he can direct the biggest movie he ever had to do in his whole career a.k.a "The Avengers".And needless to say,it is a huge deal in cinema.
And Last but not least, I stand strongly by my opinion.And until I see the movie I will not go any further with anything Joss Whedon says whether he's geeking out or not.
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Comment by DJBlaze on March 12, 2012 at 2:42am -
I've never really been able to get my hands on an Avengers title but from what I've heard, the Avengers is always about how the group works with itself so a more in depth look into all of these characters would be very interesting to see. Maybe not origin flashbacks but I'd like to see that movie with some badass action
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