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Comment by Joshua West on February 19, 2011 at 7:01am

@Happy_Birthday_Roboto

You can't really blame Zack Snynder for his work in 300 since it's a almost page for page adapation of the graphic novel by Frank Miller.

Comment by Happy Birthday Roboto on February 19, 2011 at 6:04am

@mst3k4evur

Ok, lost the battle won the war is a better way of looking at it. Yes I totally agree that this is 100% historically accurate, but my point is that I believe when the story is told the message comes across as racist within a modern context, so I think the right thing to do would have been to not tell the story!

 

Look guys, the reasons you like Zack Snyder are the reasons I dislike him, it's simple as that!

Comment by mst3k4evur on February 18, 2011 at 9:08pm

@Happy_Birthday_Roboto

The lost the battle but won the war is the way I think you want to put it. 

 

Once again, this is in line with the historical account. Don't tell me it's racist, it's simply the truth.

Comment by Happy Birthday Roboto on February 18, 2011 at 7:39pm

In the time since my last blog post I rewtached the ending of the film, at around 1hr and 39 mins, Leonidis and his men fall and in the course of their mission they killed a whole load of Persians and stopped them from advancing. ONE YEAR LATER the rest of the Spartans finish the job. Leoniidis and his men accomplish their mission of halting the advancing Persians!

I CAN'T BELIEVE I ACTUALLY WATCHED THAT PIECE OF CRAP AGAIN!!

Comment by Happy Birthday Roboto on February 18, 2011 at 7:31pm

Most of this is my fault, I should know better than to have a conversation with people who have yet to hit puberty!

Comment by Happy Birthday Roboto on February 18, 2011 at 7:30pm

Yes they were all killed but they won the battle, I watched the film earlier! That's kind of the point of the film they won at the cost of their lives.

Comment by Superbadmike on February 18, 2011 at 5:58pm

The spartans lost the battle. They where all killed by the persians.

Comment by Happy Birthday Roboto on February 18, 2011 at 2:08pm

@mst3k4ebur

1. That's his opinion.

2. It's one of the best films of the 20th Century, I don't care what Leon says, you can e-mail him and tell him I said so.

3. So you admit that everything I said is correct! Yes I watched the movie as I was writing the blog post, I always make it a point to study a film I criticise to this extent so I know what I'm talking about. They did win the battle!

4. Change the film? It can't be changed! This is where Snyder and I differ at a fundamental level, I would have chosen to NOT make the film AT ALL! The point I'm trying to get across here is that a better man would choose to turn down the project because the project was fundamentally flawed at a conceptual level. It would have been a lame movie because the source material was lame!

 

This conversation has spiraled out of control but my basic points are:
a) Snyder can direct as much as getting camera shots and elements for the fx team, but he doesn't understand performance and story stucture as well as some other guys do.

b) Having said that I get the impression from everything I've read about him and the interviews I've seen of him that he thinks he's smarter than he is.

c) Having said that, a better man will know when he's taking a project he can't handle, Snyder was perfect for 300, a shallow project for a shallow man, but when Watchmen was on the table he should have said, "Sorry guys this isn't for me." Other directors have turned down projects for a variety of reasons .

 

Bottom line: He's a man who can get things done, but his work is pretty bland and when he works on a bland project it doesn't matter that much because it's a good fit. But he's now being offered and working on projects he's just not good enough for.

Comment by mst3k4evur on February 18, 2011 at 12:50pm

@Happy_Birthday_Roboto

1. Cyrus himself has said that Dawn of the Dead 2004 is better than the original. He was very clear about.

2. Gladiator is good but overrated, ask Leon.

3. To tell the story in any way it has to be White people vs Middle Eastern people. That is how the historical battle it is loosely based on happened. They were not victorious, they lost the battle. Their hatred of the physically imperfect is also historically sound. The role of women as child bearer is historically sound. Spartan women were athletes and mothers, not warriors. As for the Queen, she was never silent or passive. Did you even watch the movie?

4. How would you have changed it to politically correct? Have the Spartans be all races, genders and a bunch in wheelchairs? Have the Persians be all White males?

Comment by Happy Birthday Roboto on February 18, 2011 at 6:48am

@mst3k4evur

You need to take into account all the things that the Spill crew say. They give something like Dawn of the Dead a full price because it's a no brainer and as a no brainer it's pretty good, but that doesn't change the fact that it's a no brainer. If you go back and watch or listen to the reviews they give the films whatever rating, but still find all the faults, especially with Watchmen, I suggest you listen to LEOG also!

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