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The Recent Spill Reviews and Discussing How We Deal With Critics
This is in no way an attack on the Spill Crew or meant to be a way to try and bring them down. So if you want to yell out rants or cuss them out or do anything like that, please do that somewhere else.
I merely wish to discuss something that may have bothered people (like me). Now I can respect differing opinions and that's actually good there is disagreement. People like different things in movies and if they give a reason why they like dislike something, that's totally fine.
My problem is with something the Spill Crew has been doing lately in reviews. I'm not angry if they disliked Amour or Zero Dark Thirty, but when they lash out and say the people who like the movie are "full of s**t," that rustles my feathers. I've read the reviews from a lot of critics who did like those movies and even if some of them are the pretentious types, a good number of them had genuine reasons to like them. They are not trying to sound smart or be cool. They enjoyed it like some people genuinely enjoy Cabin in the Woods. It gives off the wrong vibe to justify your opinion by shooting at other critics you disagree with.
I just feel that it would be a lot more fitting if the Spill crew just toned down the vendetta against other critics. If you genuinely dislike a movie someone genuinely likes, don't just call them a dick. You're being just as big a dick. Just explain your opinion. That will speak for itself.
What do you guys think? What's the best way to go about this? Are they justified with their targeting critics or is it too much? How do you determine if someone is genuine or pretentious in their review? Feel free to discuss.
I merely wish to discuss something that may have bothered people (like me). Now I can respect differing opinions and that's actually good there is disagreement. People like different things in movies and if they give a reason why they like dislike something, that's totally fine.
My problem is with something the Spill Crew has been doing lately in reviews. I'm not angry if they disliked Amour or Zero Dark Thirty, but when they lash out and say the people who like the movie are "full of s**t," that rustles my feathers. I've read the reviews from a lot of critics who did like those movies and even if some of them are the pretentious types, a good number of them had genuine reasons to like them. They are not trying to sound smart or be cool. They enjoyed it like some people genuinely enjoy Cabin in the Woods. It gives off the wrong vibe to justify your opinion by shooting at other critics you disagree with.
I just feel that it would be a lot more fitting if the Spill crew just toned down the vendetta against other critics. If you genuinely dislike a movie someone genuinely likes, don't just call them a dick. You're being just as big a dick. Just explain your opinion. That will speak for itself.
What do you guys think? What's the best way to go about this? Are they justified with their targeting critics or is it too much? How do you determine if someone is genuine or pretentious in their review? Feel free to discuss.
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Permalink Reply by Bastard child of Alan on -
*sigh*
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Permalink Reply by Artie Fufkin on -
Wait...Who is this 'spill crew' you talk of?
When I think of any crew here on spill, I automatically think of the guys & gals who co-exist here in the forums with me.
I could give a fuck about the reviews on this site, if I want someones 'criteque' on a movie here I'll put more stock with the other forum dwellers (well a couple anyway ;D) Never listened to a review here and never intend to either \../
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Permalink Reply by Bastard child of Alan on
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You sound like a huge jackass.
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Permalink Reply by Artie Fufkin on
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as I said I don't listen to 'critics' your opinion phases me none I'm afraid
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Permalink Reply by Bastard child of Alan on
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If that were true you would have ignored my comment and not replied.
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Permalink Reply by Miracleman on -
Um....if you don't listen to the reviews, why are you here?
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Permalink Reply by Sabretooth on -
Um...You do realize there's more to this site than just movie reviews right?
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Permalink Reply by Miracleman on
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Yeah, but.....shit, there's no way to dig myself outta this one, is there? :)
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Permalink Reply by Zgamer on -
There is more than one thing to do on the site. However, the reviews are the major selling point to what they advertise on the main page so you should have an opinion on it even if it is not the main focus.
That help? :)
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Permalink Reply by Zgamer on
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I was just opening this up to discuss just movie critics in general but ok
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Permalink Reply by Mason Daniel on -
Even though I've been voicing my opinion on this issue for some time in the comment sections, I'm absolutely ecstatic that someone has stood up and taken the time to visibly call out the over-abundance of arrogance present in the reviews. I would have done it myself if there was a breaking point (which would have been soon), but it probably would have been messy compared to this compact gathering of thoughts. So, on with the rant...
I'm all for a down-to-earth group of guys bullshitting about movies and the like to relate to a broad audience, but what I don't want with that package is a aggressively solipsistic attitude along with it that ruins any credibility they might have as so-called "professional critics". The fact that they dismiss that title and use it like a piece of toliet paper is frustrating to no end, as I see plenty of struggling young people trying to make a name for themselves in the world of film criticism that would likely love to be in the Spill crew's position and would probably be more respectful and well-educated when it comes to movies and people's opinions on them. Now, it's even more insulting that they shit on hard-working critics' for their thoughts on a movie they simply didn't like -- and by that, I mean that they skipped too many classes on Film Study or they grew up on nothing but "crap", thus not having the patience or brain capacity to comprehend more complex and unique cinema. It's practically an embarrassment whenever they review something along those lines, because they end up looking like the laughing stock of film criticism.
That being said, I can enjoy (sometimes immensely) when the crew bullshit about everyday life and past experiences, so don't think that I hate every fiber of their being. I just want them to brush up on their understanding of cinema so that they can have more credibility as professional film critics and not make complete asses out of themselves. It probably won't happen, but it's good to hope for that anyway, because from experience I know that people can make humongous critical turnarounds when it comes to tastes in art.
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Permalink Reply by Miracleman on
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I don't think you understand. People's tastes in art are not set things, there's not a correct opinion about anything. Just because a shit-ton of people liked Zero Dark Thirty and Amour (me included) does not mean that someone is stupid for NOT liking them. I hate how everyone jumps on them for supposedly hating all "arty" films, just because they didn't like Amour. C'mon, Cyrus' FAVORITE MOVIE is Blade Runner, a film not famous for it's fast pace and huge amounts of adrenaline-induced awesome. Yes, they shit on these other critics, but they do it in a hyperbolic and entertaining way, just like they do everything else. None of these guys would straight up get mad at someone for not liking/liking a movie. It's all in good fun, otherwise they wouldn't all be really good friends in real life. They don't want to be like the "cinephile community", they want to be genuine in the entertainment level a movie gives to them.
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