If it's crap ... We'll tell you
So I've seen the Avengers twice now online (there's streaming copies around). It's good, but it's not that good.
When they get to bickering at each other they get way out of character, and suddenly it's like watching Buffy and her friends in one of their snappier episodes, where they all sit around and get catty. Joss Whedon has a unique and continuous style of dialogue and humor that permeates all of his work, much like Quentin Tarantino's scripts. It seems like each character is the same person, in their choice of words and smarmy but not-quite-rotten banter.
I liked the movie, but I swear Joss is one guy who could use a writing partner.
I just saw the movie, and I have no idea what you're talking about. The movie is amazing and the dialogue is great. I don't know where this "all the same character" idea.
Then again, what do I know? I've never made a multi-million dollar movie.
Pssssh, what do you know? You haven't made a blockbuster movie, you have no right to judge.
I've never watched Buffy, Firefly or any of Whedon's work. But after watching the Avengers, i have to say, if this is "Whedon dialogue" then i love it.
Firefly! Go watch! NOW!
So yeah... Avengers was pretty awesome. And you're acting like characters bantering at each other is something exclusive to Buffy The Vampire Slayer... which it isn't.
Eh, I'm gonna have to disagree. Sure, everyone gave out at least one snappy one-liner here and there, but I think they were different enough to be distinguishable as their own characters. Stark's the "don't-give-a-fuck" smart ass, Rogers is the All-American Boyscout/General-In-Command, Thor's straight out of Shakesphere, Banner's the more subdued quiet one, and Widow was almost like the big sister figure telling all of her brothers to play nice already. For what it was worth, I think the actors did a fine job making their part stand out enough to work; in fact the scene you're talking about is the one that sold it for me.
And FURTHERMORE, how can Tony Stark not know what a shawarma is? I mean, seriously...
He's not just a hip New Yorker (they all know what shawarma is!!), he's also an international.
Annoying part of the script, to say the least.
You obviously watched a shitty bootleg. In the theater version Tony Stark is a shawarma expert and makes an entire combat suit out of it.
I said I liked the movie, and I do. I just think there are some glaring weaknesses to the script, and while I hear everybody gushing about I thought I'd point some out.
If you honestly think Stark wouldn't know what a shawarma is....well, then you are better at disbelief than I am.
Tony Stark only started living in New York in this movie. The other ones, he lived in L.A. and only visited N.Y. for the Stark expo.