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I was just listening to some old stand-up comedy albums and realized that fat people are pretty much the last group of people that its politically correct to make fun of. And as much as i love a good fat joke, im kinda tired of how much shit fat people get from everyone...especially comedians. I simply do not get it, most of them are alcoholics and/or drug addicts...but being FAT, THAT's a disuse, and fat people should be ashamed of them-selfs @_@, for instance...Im a big fan of Bill Maher, love his stand-up albums and "Real time with..." show, and while he's a dope-head himself and drug-supporter, whenever he talks bout America's obesity problems it sound like every Fat americans decided to be fat just to piss him off, and to be perfectly honest i dont see how's heavy eating any diffrent from heavy drinking, or abusing drugs .
So my question for Spill community is, does obese people really deserve that much hate, and what's your view on "Obese America" problem ?
Actually they don't, I think you're just viewing it that way because it's the jokes that hurt you personally. Don't get me wrong, it's hard to deny if a joke actually hits you, but just take it in stride because that's all it is... a joke. Do you think I get offended by every short joke, sexist joke, bisexual joke, mental disorder joke, and molestation/rape joke? You're no special snowflake for being fat, dude. And there are worse things to be offended by than being fat.
I can only speak for myself, but all addictions are equal to me, be it smoking, drugs or alcohol, all of those who abuse substances deserve to get shit for it and should be ashamed, I don't give a fuck if you're fat but instead of trying to make yourself feel better or proud by being fat why not actually do something better like working your way to a healthy body with a good nutrition.
It pisses me off more because there's people out there who suffer from conditions where they can't lose their body weight as much as they wish for it and from what I understand you have no problems of that sort.
it's the gluttony, by the sound of it, you being fat was a lifestyle choice. there's really no comparing making an offensive remark about a person's weight with a remark about his skin color or ethnic identity. i don't make fun of fat people just because they're fat, but with the case of comedians it's understandable that making a joke about fat people is alot safer than a race.
think of it this way, which statement is more offensive;
"i don't like the blacks because from the day they were born they are inferior, and they will always be inherently inferior, solely due to the color of their skin"
"i don't like fat people because they choose to eat too much and exercise too little, and that won't change until they learn the discipline to stop being glutinous and put effort into exercise"
there's also the historical aspect, for the longest time, the fat people in society were the lazy wealthy people who didn;t have to work. and they often garnered contempt. while the average person works and toils the overweight person sits on his ass and puts in minimal effort. that's the root of it really, laziness, being fat gives the impression that you're not willing to put in the physical effort that everyone else does.
of course, i'm speaking in general terms, if a person is fat due to a problem such as an eating disorder or an inherent physical problem of some sort then it's a different story. for me, insulting a person based on factors they cannot control is the most offensive remark.
'Sure, i would like to get in shape...but that's not happenning anytime soon.'
But that's the thing though: you're fighting obesity. You'd be hard pressed to find reasonable criticism of someone who has realized their weight is an issue and is attempting to change that.
What most people in this thread seem to be railing against is the defeatism stance of "It's normal to be obese and you shouldn't be critical of those who've given into obesity". It's unhealthy, leads to premature death and can strip precious time away from your life that could have been spent with family members. I'm not in perfect shape and I know that being overweight isn't always as simple as being lazy. But it's not something ingrained on the same level as race or sexuality, and is also a medical condition that can be prevented and reversed with planned meals and exercise.